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Dubey · Tall

Performance Based Forced Call-ups

mrdannyg · Douche Nozzle

I have created two polls - one for performance-based, one for games played-based. Everyone will be asked to support or not support. You can vote to support either, one, or neither. This is far simpler and I should've done it this way in the first place.

Do you support having a performance-based forced call-up rule? Hypothetically, if a player falls into any tier, they must be called up by next year's pre-season roster freeze, or they become free agents. The rule would likely not be implemented until the year following the next to be fair.

This rule would be in addition to any other forced call-up rules.

Long Ball Whalers · #RAGE Founder

Seems Im in the minority.

If I understand the reasoning behind this rule, its because the player is good and should not be kept on the farm, because he is already accruing stats.

The one thing I never understood about this rule:
Why are we penalizing someone who made a good draft pick, if they dont want to call him up early?

If you already have rules in place such as a 5y max on the farm, why penalize a poolie because he was able to draft a player who was successful earlier?
If the poolie is smart enough to know when his team needs that farm player the most, why not let him manage his team as he sees fit. Why do the rest of us care if the player is still on the farm, or in the starting lineup?

Dubey · Tall

I don't really see it as punishing anyone, we are just trying to avoid the hoarding of superstars on a farm team.

We are trying to simulate managing an MLB team. A farm team is a place where your prospects develop, until they have proven that they belong on the main roster (ie. making a teir in a full MLB season). While I realize that there is no such restriction is the MLB, there is also not really a situation where arguably the best baseball player on earth (Trout), would be sitting on a farm team because their GM didn't want to waste a year of his eligibility.

mrdannyg · Douche Nozzle

I think you both asked and answered the questions well. The unanswered question is, why do the rest of us care? I guess it is partially to 'simulate' the MLB, and partially for the fun and integrity of the league. Imagine if I had Harper, Trout, Myers, Tavares and Profar on my farm, and next year, they're all superstars. They could be superstars, and on my farm for 2 full years, and this league would be missing highly relevant players. Is that a big deal? I dunno!

I worded the questions this way, because I heard from at least 2 people who didn't want any rules, and wanted to make sure they got their voices heard as well. If the majority of people want such a rule, I think we should have it, but if not, I'm happy to do without.

As I said, I think it would be unfair to implement any rule immediately. The fairest thing to do would not be to apply any changes to picks made until 2013. My preference would be to just apply it to everyone by 2014 or 2015 just so it doesn't get too hard to keep track of.

digitalmonkey · Ron Wilson for PM!

I do not support.

wsox8 · Guru

darn, was hoping we would enforce this

Long Ball Whalers · #RAGE Founder

Dubey wrote:
I don't really see it as punishing anyone, we are just trying to avoid the hoarding of superstars on a farm team.

We are trying to simulate managing an MLB team. A farm team is a place where your prospects develop, until they have proven that they belong on the main roster (ie. making a teir in a full MLB season). While I realize that there is no such restriction is the MLB, there is also not really a situation where arguably the best baseball player on earth (Trout), would be sitting on a farm team because their GM didn't want to waste a year of his eligibility.

Its interesting you bring up Trout, cause there's an example of a guy who was already this good, and his team didnt call him up til May 1. Hell, he may have been better than 80% of MLB LAST YEAR.

I just dont see the point of saying Player X can be left on the farm for 5years, but Player Z has to be called up right away because hes too good. If your trying to emulate the rules of MLB, then emulate with the rules. As you pointed out Dave, MLB has no such rule.

Im pretty sure MLB teams stagger their players and the timelines to coincide with their own stratedgies, whether the stratedgy is winning or just not starting the UFA clock early.